Comments on: Comments http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp Just another WordPress weblog Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:13:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Dax http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-1541 Dax Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:48:26 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-1541 I don't have time to follow these discussion, nor do I have the time to give a scientific lecture here (too busy with my own research), but I do want to point out an enormous flaw in Rob's "irreducible complex vision" argument. The way Rob poses the problem makes it seem that all proteins involved in the cascade had to have evolved dependently of each-other, which is not the case! The proteins and mechanisms involved are common in pretty much everything that happens in our body. For instance, the trans and cis motifs of proteins are common among almost every conformation changing protein, and is a major factor in the induction of DNA damage due to UV radiation (how is that intelligently designed!). In this case, ulcanic acid shifts from trans to cis. ATP, or the cousin GTP, is how proteins transfer energy, and again is common. The same for all the other cascades: all common motifs and mechanisms. Molecular biological arguments of irreducible complexity always assume that the each subunit of the entire protein, or each protein in a cascade, needed to evolve dependently of all the other factors, which is just false! Life uses and re-uses! We see this in the homology (similarity) of proteins between species: the further the species are apart on an evolutionary scale, the more diverging the proteins are... and even then we can still determine which parts are really important, because these have been conserved, eg. don't differ that much. Even between humans and yeast! Science is so amazing! It is a waste not to probe deeper because we just argue that it has been designed. We would miss out on how intricately connected all life on this planet truly is. I don’t have time to follow these discussion, nor do I have the time to give a scientific lecture here (too busy with my own research), but I do want to point out an enormous flaw in Rob’s “irreducible complex vision” argument. The way Rob poses the problem makes it seem that all proteins involved in the cascade had to have evolved dependently of each-other, which is not the case! The proteins and mechanisms involved are common in pretty much everything that happens in our body. For instance, the trans and cis motifs of proteins are common among almost every conformation changing protein, and is a major factor in the induction of DNA damage due to UV radiation (how is that intelligently designed!). In this case, ulcanic acid shifts from trans to cis. ATP, or the cousin GTP, is how proteins transfer energy, and again is common. The same for all the other cascades: all common motifs and mechanisms.
Molecular biological arguments of irreducible complexity always assume that the each subunit of the entire protein, or each protein in a cascade, needed to evolve dependently of all the other factors, which is just false! Life uses and re-uses! We see this in the homology (similarity) of proteins between species: the further the species are apart on an evolutionary scale, the more diverging the proteins are… and even then we can still determine which parts are really important, because these have been conserved, eg. don’t differ that much. Even between humans and yeast!
Science is so amazing! It is a waste not to probe deeper because we just argue that it has been designed. We would miss out on how intricately connected all life on this planet truly is.

]]> By: Webster http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-918 Webster Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:11:52 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-918 Speaking of unicorns: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gg9q1oD4W9a8TZHYfvE4ToLE90iAD9181I381 Speaking of unicorns:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gg9q1oD4W9a8TZHYfvE4ToLE90iAD9181I381

]]> By: Brian http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-907 Brian Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:30:51 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-907 For those confused about the use of the word unicorn in the King James Version of the Bible (for example: the creators of this website), you should grab a good book about the history of Bible translation. For those confused about the use of the word unicorn in the King James Version of the Bible (for example: the creators of this website), you should grab a good book about the history of Bible translation.

]]> By: dree http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-895 dree Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:50:15 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-895 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080612-unicorn-video-ap.html http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080612-unicorn-video-ap.html

]]> By: Jemma Web http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-870 Jemma Web Sat, 31 May 2008 03:59:05 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-870 hi i was just wondering how long did unicorndlive for and do they still live? hi i was just wondering how long did unicorndlive for and do they still live?

]]> By: willow http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-869 willow Thu, 29 May 2008 21:35:29 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-869 At school kids in my class had a debate on unicorns being real or not . I want to know if unicorns are real or not . I liked your website and was that a real unicorn skeleton or not ? At school kids in my class had a debate on unicorns being real or not .
I want to know if unicorns are real or not . I liked your website and was that a real unicorn skeleton or not ?

]]> By: Michelle http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-849 Michelle Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:57:53 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-849 Unicorns did exist. We humans forced them into extinction by the wanton practice of killing them for their horns. The Black Rhinoceros is going to become extinct before too much longer for the same reason. Another point. There are many, many ancient tapestries depicting a royal family with a Unicorn in their midst like the family dog. Putting a non-existant creature into the middle of one of the tapestries makes about as much sense as taking a formal family photo and sticking Mickey Mouse into the middle of it! Fossil evidence is so difficult to find, because the horn had such value. They wouldn't be left to rot if the animal died naturally. Unicorns were hunted, and the hunters were not against taking the horns from animals regardless of whether they died of natural causes or were slaughtered. Unicorns did exist. We humans forced them into extinction by the wanton practice of killing them for their horns. The Black Rhinoceros is going to become extinct before too much longer for the same reason.

Another point. There are many, many ancient tapestries depicting a royal family with a Unicorn in their midst like the family dog.

Putting a non-existant creature into the middle of one of the tapestries makes about as much sense as taking a formal family photo and sticking Mickey Mouse into the middle of it!

Fossil evidence is so difficult to find, because the horn had such value. They wouldn’t be left to rot if the animal died naturally. Unicorns were hunted, and the hunters were not against taking the horns from animals regardless of whether they died of natural causes or were slaughtered.

]]> By: Hang in There http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-846 Hang in There Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:32:02 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-846 Wait.......so, the Bible ISN'T supposed to be taken literally?? I'm really confused here. Wait…….so, the Bible ISN’T supposed to be taken literally??

I’m really confused here.

]]> By: Abbey and Matt http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-844 Abbey and Matt Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:01:44 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-844 Unicorns are sexy, and their flippin sweet, and i dream about them at night. Also we think about them when we are riding horsees Unicorns are sexy, and their flippin sweet, and i dream about them at night.
Also we think about them when we are riding horsees

]]> By: Matt http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-842 Matt Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:24:13 +0000 http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/comments/#comment-842 To the Christians: http://a683.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_99e9b56709a01c818e4693fa4e39a092.jpg I lol'd. To the Christians:
http://a683.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_99e9b56709a01c818e4693fa4e39a092.jpg
I lol’d.

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